OFFICER:      Okay, and uh so what were the plans, for them to get together or?
CASE:            Uh, basically, they were just going to talk, uh, I don't even know what they were going to talk about, that they couldn't talk about anywhere else, but, um, she wanted to meet him at, uh, I think it was Mt. Washington Cemetery, and, because it's like close to her house, and, uh, so that was going to be at like 5:00. She couldn't get a ride out there. Um, so we just left. And that's when we left and traded in the games. Uh, but, uh, it was basically uh, yeah, we didn't think anything of it. It was just no big deal, and he didn't really care, uh either way, whether or not we went to see her, uh, but she I guess called while we were gone and said that she had found a ride after all and that she was going to be there at 5: 00. She left a message on the answering machine. Uh, it was, by the time we got back it was after 5:00 anyways, like, or no, it was actually 15 until 5:00 I think.

OFFICER:      Back to Justin's uh plan when he got back to his condo, and you sitting there and he played the message and heard it?
CASE:            Yeah, yeah. He heard the message, uh. There was nothing he could do because she had already left. I think he may have called her, but I don't really remember for sure. I wasn't really paying much attention. Uh, or he called at her house and I think he did actually, and he talked to her sister. So she said that Anastasia already had gotten a ride to the cemetery. Uh, after, oh God, after, um, after he talked to them, I guess it was a little while, I don't know how long, how much time passed, but uh eventually she called back to the condo from a pay phone saying you know that she was up there, she wanted him to pick her up. They talked. . .

OFFICER:      Did they talk on the phone?
CASE:            Yeah, they talked on the phone for, for quite a while.

OFFICER:      And about what time did she call him?
CASE:            I have no idea.

OFFICER:      It was Wednesday afternoon though.
CASE:            Yeah.

OFFICER:      After 5:00?
CASE:            It was probably about, it was probably almost 6:00 or thereabouts, I'm not really sure. I mean, I've got a horrible concept of time. But, uh, yeah, so they had been on the phone for probably a good 20 minutes, half an hour or so, and just, he's like, you know, he kept he kept it from reintegrating, and that uh, you know, he uh he would come out to pick her up, but you know, me and Kelly would be with them if, uh he went out there and so, if she wanted to talk in private, well, you know, she's pretty much out of luck. Uh, she said she didn't have a problem with that, so we finally just packed up everything that we were doing and left. Uh, we went to go...

OFFICER:      What do you mean when you say packed up?
CASE:            Oh, we just put away the Nintendo and everything.

OFFICER:      Okay.
CASE:            Uh, so we drove out there, um, she called us from like the Dairy Queen, I guess, I don't, some 24 Highway, it's right across from Mt. Washington Cemetery. Uh, 'cause she had been waiting at the cemetery I guess for a while. And, uh, so we just drove out there to pick her up. We get there, she's was in a really bad mood.

OFFICER:      How did you know to pick her up at the Dairy Queen?
CASE:            She had called us from the pay phone there.

OFFICER:      The second time?
CASE:            Uh . . .

OFFICER:      They had been on the phone like twice . . .?
CASE:             yeah. So we picked her up there and she was just in a really bad mood you know, she was giving me the dirty look and she was giving Justin a dirty look, uh, we get in the car, uh, they started just bickering like they usually do, you know back and forth and back and forth, and uh we were probably in the car I guess for about, I don't know, ten minutes or so, before uh finally she just, we were at a stop light I guess it was at I think it's 435, I'm not really familiar with that area.

OFFICER:      You got to the Dairy Queen.
CASE:            Mmm-hmm.

OFFICER:      She got into the car.
CASE:            Right.

OFFICER:      And whose car were you in?
CASE:            Justin's.

OFFICER:      And he was driving?
CASE:            Yeah.

OFFICER:      Okay. And you left the Dairy Queen.
CASE:            Right.

OFFICER:      Where did you go?
CASE:            Uh, we, uh, we were gonna actually follow through with the original plan. We drove over to Mt. Washington, uh there were I think, I don't know, Justin was like, there was a car that had come around the corner and I guess since it was after hours, he didn't want to be in the cemetery after hours and get in trouble for that, so we just left.

OFFICER:      Justin.
CASE:            What?

OFFICER:      Justin didn't want to be in there after dark?
CASE:            Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so basically we just, you know, we pretty much just drove through, I mean we stopped at one point and were about to get out of the car but then the car, the other car came up behind.us, we assumed it was a grounds keeper, and we were like, okay, well, let's just leave then. Uh,. . .

OFFICER:      Were they out of the car? Or were out of the car?
CASE:            Uh, yeah, yeah, we'd all gotten out of the car at least for a second. I mean, it was probably like for quite honestly under 30 seconds that we were outside of the car. Then we saw the car coming around the corner. . .

OFFICER:      And when you were-at Kelly's house in Kansas, did uh, you go in the house?
CASE:            Yeah, yeah we both, Justin and I both went in. And he called, uh, he called Anastasia's parents from there and asked, like, you know, if she had called yet, just to be sure that she was okay. And her parents were like, well no, or no, actually, I think she talked to, or I think he talked to her sister, and she was like, well no, she hasn't called yet. He explained what had happened and, uh, uh, that, you know, it was no big deal. I mean, we still didn't think about it too much, I mean, I was kind of concerned, Justin was concerned as well, and uh, you know, but we still didn't really think about it. We figured she had probably gone somewhere to brood or something.

OFFICER:      Okay, when you said Justin explained what had happened, did he explain to .
CASE:            Francesca, her sister. .

OFFICER:       did he explain what you have explained to us. She got out of the car .
CASE:            Yeah, mm-hm.

OFFICER:      All that?
CASE:            Yeah, I mean, I wasn't listening in on the conversation, or anything, I mean, but from what, you know, from what I remember, that's all that he said was that, you know, she had gotten out of the car and.

OFFICER:      You heard him telling this to this person?
CASE:            Yeah.

OFFICER:      Okay, and after you left there then you went to where?
CASE:            After we left Kelly's?

OFFICER:      Yes.
CASE:            Um, then we went over to uh, Tara, that's Abraham's girlfriend's place, we went over to her house and I dropped off some stuff, and picked up uh the key to Abraham's car from her.

OFFICER:      And from there you went?
CASE:            From there I went home. Justin dropped me off. You know.

OFFICER:      To the house on Central?
CASE:            Right.

OFFICER:      Okay. And about what time was that?
CASE:            It was about 10: 00 because I remember glancing at the clock on the dashboard just to see what time it was coming home, you know.

OFFICER:      Okay, did Justin go in the house with you?
CASE:            No, he stayed in the car.

OFFICER:      Did, uh, he say anything about what he was going to do?
CASE:            He said he was just going to go home and go to sleep.

OFFICER:      He didn't say he was going to try to find Anastasia or anything?
CASE:            No. I mean, that's, it was a bit unusual I thought, for Justin to go to sleep at 10:00, he usually goes, stays up till like 2:00 or so, or sometimes 3:00 in the morning. So.

OFFICER:      Okay, and when was the next time that you spoke with Justin?
CASE:            I talked to Justin the next morning at about 9:00, it was about 9:00 he woke me up. Um, which, again is pretty unusual, because you know, he keeps such. . .

OFFICER:      He woke you up, he called you on the telephone?
CASE:            Yeah. Yeah. Um, actually, or did he page me? I don't really remember, I think he called me, though. Uh, it was just so early in the morning I didn't even pay attention. But, uh, and it was, it just kinda struck me as odd, I was like, you realize what time it is? He's like, uh yeah, it's 9:00. It's like, why are you up? He said, well I had trouble sleeping last night. I don't remember what the conversation was about, because I was just so tired I was just like, well, could you call me back later? He says, yeah, cool, I'll call you back this afternoon. And, uh, I tried to call him later, 'cause he hadn't called me yet. Uh, and I haven't been able to talk to him since. I tried, I tried like 8 or 9 times yesterday alone, just to get a hold of him. I think I tried to call him this morning, too. Or, no, I talked to his dad this morning, actually.

OFFICER:      Okay, when uh, did you call his dad?
CASE:            Yeah. I called his dad last night. Um, after I heard everything, I got the number from Kelly. Like last night when Kelly and I were, uh, well my mom dropped us, me and Kelly off at her house yesterday, because I had to go in for a job interview and Kelly came with me for it. Um, so she dropped us off at Kelly's house and from there I called, because she had the number, I called his dad at

OFFICER:      Okay, and what did you and Justin's dad talk about?
CASE:            Uh, I basically told him about the situation. I left a message saying that, you know, I was wondering, uh, if he had contacted them at all. Um, I was kind of concerned because it seemed really odd that, you know, Anastasia turned up dead, and he was gone for, like, such a long period of time. So, um, I just told him, you know, what had happened, that, the story on the news that I had seen, what I had heard from you know, my friend Abraham, 'cause I hadn't yet seen the news, uh, so I mean that was basically all I had to go on.

OFFICER:      Okay. What uh, do you happen to know if Justin had any hand guns?
CASE:            No, no he never had any, any hand guns as far as I know. I mean, he had a, he bought a shotgun a while back, uh, he sold that about a month ago, I guess. Or, not a month a go, about three weeks ago I guess.

OFFICER:      What's uh Justin's last name, besides, uh, what you know him by?
CASE:            What do you . . . ?

OFFICER:      Have you ever heard of him having another last name?
CASE:            Huh-uh. No.

OFFICER:      Isn't he adopted?
CASE:            Uh, no, he has a step-father.

OFFICER:      Okay, where does the name of Riley come in at? Have you ever heard him use that name?
CASE:            Huh-uh, I never heard, no.

OFFICER:      R-E-I-L-L-E-Y? What's his temper when he's around Anastasia? Besides arguing and everything. Did you ever see them physically get involved?
CASE:            Oh, no. No, Justin's like one of the most passive people that I know. He, like I said, he's just really apathetic about everything, it seems like. Uh, he never, you know, he never hit her. She was usually, she was actually the violent one in the relationship. I mean, she'd, you know, if she got upset with him she'd throw things at him, or hit him or something like that. He would never do anything back. You know, he would restrain her sometimes, you know, to keep him, keep her from hitting him, but that was pretty much it.

OFFICER:      You saw her hit him before?
CASE:            No, I never have. I just heard, you know, I've heard about it.

OFFICER:      Okay. The shotgun that you said he owned. Are you sure it's a shotgun?
CASE:            Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it' was like, I don't know what it was, I just know it was like a Remington and it was black.

OFFICER:      Okay, did you ever see any bullets or shells for it?
CASE:            No, I never did.

OFFICER:      The barrel opening, was it little, big, anything.
CASE:            I think it was big, I don't really remember.

OFFICER:      Okay. And why did he buy it?
CASE:            Um, he never really said. I mean, I never really asked either. He was, I mean it wasn't a really big deal. I didn't think of it, I guess. I don't know. I would assume that it was probably, you know, just for sport. I have no idea, though. I mean, like I said, I never spoke with him of it.

OFFICER:      Can you say why he sold it?
CASE:            Uh, no, he just basically didn't want it anymore. So, and, I remember he bought it for $300, it was like from Wal-Mart. He bought it for $300, and he sold it for $150. And so he was obviously, I mean I guess he didn't care because it's his parents' money anyway. So.

OFFICER:      Where did he go last weekend?
CASE:            Uh, last weekend he as in Tulsa.

OFFICER:      Why?
CASE:            Huh?

OFFICER:      Why?
CASE:            To visit his parents.

OFFICER:      Did he go out there for a specific reason?
CASE:            No, not that I know of.

OFFICER:      Uh, is he still in school?
CASE:            Uh, he wasn't. He was going to UMKC for while. Uh, I don't know exactly when he stopped going to classes, but he just, uh, I think he mentioned something like having gotten reimbursed, they sent him a check because he, he officially dropped out, or something.

OFFICER:      You didn't hear him say anything that he as going to go back this weekend and tell his parents about him dropping out of school and as going to start up next semester?
CASE:            I don't remember. He probably would have. I mean, that may have been why he went down, but I don't, they don't know, I know for sure that they don't know that he dropped out though.

OFFICER:      His dad say that he saw him down there last weekend?
CASE:            I didn't - - no. He didn't say anything. I didn't ask him.

OFFICER:      Do you think Justin would be capable of doing something like this?
CASE:            I personally don't think so. I mean, Justin's, Justin's like he's five years old. I mean, he's, he's just a kid at heart. I mean, I never.

OFFICER:      Where do you think he went at 10:00 that night after he dropped you off?
CASE:            Well, I assume he went home. I mean, I can't imagine

OFFICER:      Does he have any places where he goes to be by himself, any special places?
CASE:            He stays at home. He pretty much doesn't leave the house, like, ever. And then, unless I'm around him or you know, Kelly or I, both usually.

OFFICER:      What was the attraction to cemeteries?
CASE:            I don't know. I mean, all of us have kind of had it. I mean, Anastasia had it, you know, she just, I don't know, it's just quiet. It's a nice place to go and think.

OFFICER:      Okay. Did Justin have any of these places that he went, just to think?
CASE:            No, he just stayed at home. I mean, he never went anywhere, really. That I, I mean, that I remember. That I know of. He used to go to coffee shops a lot, but he stopped doing that after a while. So.

OFFICER:      Uh, where does Tara McDowell live, do you know her address?
CASE:            Not off hand, I mean. . .

OFFICER:      Do you know her phone number?
CASE:            Uh, it was actually disconnected like, about a week ago.

OFFICER:      Was she a good friend of Anastasia's?
CASE:            I wouldn't say she was a good friend, but, I mean, I think Anastasia considered her a good friend. Uh, Tara was kind of annoyed with her just because she always called and, uh, I don't know, just basically complained about the same thing, uh, Justin being apathetic and, you know, whatever the situation was. So.

OFFICER:      Could you please give me a little sketch of the area where you believe that, uh, Anastasia got out of the car?
CASE:            Uh, I'm not really good with this. Um, I guess it's Truman Road, uh, it comes down and it, well actually it kinda curves I think. And then there's a bridge here, um.

OFFICER:      Where's Erotic City?
CASE:            That would have been, I guess, right about here, and then

OFFICER:      And which way were you.
CASE:            We were coming down, this is, uh, that's north. Uh, we were coming down,_ there's like this big curve here, uh, and then there's like Erotic City and like over here there's a really old bridge, and I think like right before it's like another adult store. Uh, and then like down here, uh, 435 I think. There's a stop light right there, like right before you go under the bridge, and that's where she got out at.

OFFICER:      It's right there at the 435 intersection?
CASE:            Yeah, it was like, I mean we were just parked right there and she just left.

OFFICER:      Before you went under the bridge?
CASE:            Yeah. I think that right over here there's a sign that, well, it's a little bit further, it's like right here there's a sign that says Entering Independence. So.

OFFICER:      Okay, so you all were traveling towards Kansas City?
CASE:            Yeah, we were going to Justin's condo.

OFFICER:      Okay, and that's when she got out?
CASE:            Mmm-hmm.

OFFICER:      Okay. Anything you would like to add?
CASE:            Well, that's pretty much all I can think of. Um, no, there's nothing.

OFFICER:      Does Abraham live with Tara?
CASE:            No, he used to. He was living with them for a while, or with her for a while and, uh, and then they had a falling through and they broke up and now she's like got another boyfriend or something.

OFFICER:      What's you pager number?
CASE:            Uh, (redacted

OFFICER:      Care if I ever call you on that?
CASE:            No, that's fine.